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	<title>Comments on: Resources for &#8220;Stewardship and Simple Thinking&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Sitze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Sitze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan who is NOT &quot;Don&quot;!

Oops!  Sorry that I miswrote your name. I apologize for the misread and incorrect reference. As &quot;Dan&quot; you write well; I could find a good example in that!

God keep you joyful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan who is NOT &#8220;Don&#8221;!</p>
<p>Oops!  Sorry that I miswrote your name. I apologize for the misread and incorrect reference. As &#8220;Dan&#8221; you write well; I could find a good example in that!</p>
<p>God keep you joyful!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sitze</title>
		<link>http://albanroundtable.org/archives/909/comment-page-1#comment-2678</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sitze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan is right.

For years many of us working in the stewardship education community have tried -- sometimes in vain -- to wrest out of lay and clergy brains the words and phrases that violated Scripture, common sense and the findings of generosity research. We poked at piles of platitudes, tried to insert intellectual and emotional honesty into what was usually questionable theology chasing shabby practices.  We consistently tried to move the conversations -- and congregational behaviors -- toward more accurate views of first-century &quot;economia,&quot;&quot;economos&quot; or even the later &quot;sty-warden.&quot; 

As Don notes, we consistently ran into the fear/danger mechanisms of the brain, and so usually came up short when rubber needed to meet road.

So hats off to another stewardship truth-teller, someone who has leap-frogged over ineffectual bromides and tired language. One thing, though, Dan: Many of us have seen this promise for decades, and all of us who have seen the problem have to work a little harder at the answers. &quot;Fierce conversation&quot; is good and necessary, but there are places, in current theology and current ecclesiology, where new answers seem workable for these times.

At any rate, you speak well and you speak honestly.  In stewardship, both admirable traits and worth our attention.

Thanks!

Bob Sitze</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan is right.</p>
<p>For years many of us working in the stewardship education community have tried &#8212; sometimes in vain &#8212; to wrest out of lay and clergy brains the words and phrases that violated Scripture, common sense and the findings of generosity research. We poked at piles of platitudes, tried to insert intellectual and emotional honesty into what was usually questionable theology chasing shabby practices.  We consistently tried to move the conversations &#8212; and congregational behaviors &#8212; toward more accurate views of first-century &#8220;economia,&#8221;"economos&#8221; or even the later &#8220;sty-warden.&#8221; </p>
<p>As Don notes, we consistently ran into the fear/danger mechanisms of the brain, and so usually came up short when rubber needed to meet road.</p>
<p>So hats off to another stewardship truth-teller, someone who has leap-frogged over ineffectual bromides and tired language. One thing, though, Dan: Many of us have seen this promise for decades, and all of us who have seen the problem have to work a little harder at the answers. &#8220;Fierce conversation&#8221; is good and necessary, but there are places, in current theology and current ecclesiology, where new answers seem workable for these times.</p>
<p>At any rate, you speak well and you speak honestly.  In stewardship, both admirable traits and worth our attention.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Bob Sitze</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Clark</title>
		<link>http://albanroundtable.org/archives/909/comment-page-1#comment-2672</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan&#039;s article and the five questions go beyond &quot;stewardship&quot; and dollars to time and talents. They are questions we should ask ourselves whether we be a congreagation, a church council or committee or a ministry. The answers may have a direct impact of our effectiveness and efficiency where ever we are in the church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan&#8217;s article and the five questions go beyond &#8220;stewardship&#8221; and dollars to time and talents. They are questions we should ask ourselves whether we be a congreagation, a church council or committee or a ministry. The answers may have a direct impact of our effectiveness and efficiency where ever we are in the church.</p>
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